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Poster art about student debt

Here’s a wonderful poster from collegescholarships.org and byJess.net:

Student Loans Scheme.

Infographic by College Scholarships.org

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Who wants to pay Robert Reich’s education tax?

This op-ed piece by Robert Reich, the former Clintonista with a dreamy, optimistic heart, is a grab bag of ideas for getting the country out of the “Second Depression”, or as the more optimistic politicians like to say, the “Great Recession”. Buried in his list of solutions is a typical, dreamy academic call for public colleges to be free.

Who will pay? Graduates will pay an extra 10% of their first 10 years of full-time income. I wonder how people will react to such a plan. Sociologists have been finding work in corporations by studying marketing plans and they often report that humans are pretty risk averse. Cable and cell phone plans that offer all-you-can-eat and unlimited service are very popular, even though studies show that most people don’t come close to using all of the minutes or service they buy.

So lets say you’re a high school senior confronted with a choice: go to  college and pay an extra 10% or try to make it on your own. This is a tough one because people tend to overestimate how much they’ll make. The optimistic go-getters might say, “10% for 10 years? No way!” And the smart ones will be right because aside from some narrow technical fields, making money has little to do with the lessons from the classroom.

Now let’s say your an employer. In the past, you might choose college educated workers because they’ve got a certain extra something, a certain ability to say “je ne sais quoi.” But now you’re going to need to pay Big Man on Campus an extra 10% to cover his living expenses and his loan. Maybe you’ll choose those that didn’t go to college.

When education was bought and pursued by the parents, it was a much easier sale. It was a fixed price  like the fixed price cell phone contracts. And so the parents kept repeating the mantra they learned from their parents who lived through the First Depression: College is good.

This idea of committing to paying 10% sounds tricky. Everyone thinks they’re going to be rich. Everyone thinks they’re going to be the one who gets that one job for Post-Racial Abiotic Zoology Theorists. So they’ll look at the 10% and think, “Gosh, they’re going to really sock it to me when I start pulling in $300k/year as an exec.”   So maybe the kids will shy away from public colleges and maybe even education in general. That might not be so bad.

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More on the Shadow Debt

Andrew Gillen over at the College Affordability Clubhouse just produced a better estimate of the unreported or shadow debt. That is, the amount that parents borrow or raid from their 401k. The standard numbers usually focus on the kid not on the family unit and so they can hide much of the debt that the parents take on.

My guesses at these values were semi random although I tried to use some real numbers from 401K news stories. Gillen’s is a better attempt and one that should be studied. My only reservation is that it seems a bit too low, but I’m just basing this on the anecdotal stories I hear from parents and friends. Many parents I know take on even more debt than their kids.

But empirical evidence should weigh heavier than some guy yakking over beer to his friend about the huge home equity loan. So let’s welcome this and hope they’ll inspire more and deeper study of the shadow debt. This is great.

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Commenting fixed, I think

We upgraded to a new version of WordPress and added CAPTCHA blocking that was a bit too successful. Not only were the spammer locked out, but everyone else too. My apologies.

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“Upscale Law School” searches for “Executive Chef”

Perhaps you’re paying tuition to an “upscale law school” in New York. Perhaps you’re guaranteeing the loans of someone going to an upscale law school– something that taxpayers are doing in many shapes and forms. Well, one glance at this Craig’s List job will tell you how some of that money is being spent:

Gotham Personnel seeking knowledgeable, hardworking individual to fill Head Chef position on a temp to Permanent basis for the special events department at well know upscale Law School.Head chef will be responsible for creating and introducing new menu items, manage all aspects of the BOH kitchen with team of up to 5 kitchen personnel, must have all proper certifications/Credentials.

I love the idea that the Executive Chef must make sure that all of the folks responsible for chopping, mixing and making everything yummy have the proper certifications and credentials. Maybe this is what Paglia means by “revalorizing the trades”. If anyone has to maintain the hegemony of pieces of paper, it’s the college industrial complex. Bon Appetit!

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Double checking the employment stats

One of the neat things about the web is that we don’t need to just accept everything we’re told. The well-titled blog ButIDidEverythingRight just quoted some of Duke Law’s statistics. Apparently 100% of the people from the Class of 2009 had jobs at graduation. But is that really true?

I don’t have much time to dig into these things, but I signed onto LinkedIn and started searching the public resumes of the graduates from 2009. I only got through the first two pages, but I found this:

  • Many are employed as associates at firms. I counted 20.
  • Two are listed as clerks for judges.
  • Two others have legal jobs like being a Vice-Consol for an embassy.
  • A number list past jobs at Duke Clinics and other university positions, a common technique that schools use to claim 100% employment.
  • Many don’t list employment. I found at least 10 with titles that aren’t likely to encourage me to spend $200k+ for a Duke Law degree:
    • Entrepreneur, Law School Graduate and Experienced Financial Analyst
    • Community Development
    • Student at Duke University – The Fuqua School of Business
    • Accounts Executive at Institute for Higher Learning Government Relations, Law, International Development – Raleigh-Durham, North Carolina Area
    • Professional
    • Financial Services Attorney – Charlotte, North Carolina Area
    • Real Estate Broker at Self Employed
    • Attorney and Entrepreneur at Attorney and Entrepreneur
    • Trade Policy and Regulatory Affairs
    • Experienced Finance Professional

I hate to make any concrete judgement from this list. There are certainly some impressive jobs at top name firms. There are even a few clerks. But I would be a complete fool to bet that an accurate accounting would prove 100% of the people are employed in any normal sense of the word.

I know entrepreneurs take risks. I know some people are good consultants. I know that not everyone rushes to update LinkedIn with news of their new job. But many of the listings look like people who will jump at a job that comes along.

Does anyone want to do a better search? I’m sure a journalist could really have fun by calling up a bunch of the folks and see how many of them are searching for work. Then ask whether they really had a job at graduation. It only takes 1 to spoil a claim of 100%!

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College Industrial Complex sets sights on plumbing theory

I love Camille Paglia and think she’s spot on in many of the points that she makes in this short piece for the Chronicle of Higher Edumacation:

  • “When middle-class graduates in their mid-20s are just stepping on the bottom rung of the professional career ladder, many of their working-class peers are already self-supporting and married with young children.”
  • “The elite schools, predicated on molding students into mirror images of their professors, seem divorced from any rational consideration of human happiness.”

Still I can’t help but wonder how the college industrial complex will react to her meme calling for “a sweeping revalorization of the trades.” Well, yes, it’s a good idea. But I’m guessing that plumbing is doing just fine without the benefit of fancy, college-grade worlds like “valorize.”

She’s looking around and seeing that the plumber is making more than any of her students will ever make. What does the college industrial complex traditionally do when it spots an area where people are making money? Create a degree program that gives people the proper foundation for making that money, allowing the talkers to make some cash from the doers.

And so the valorization of the plumbers will begin with plumbing theory and the introduction of some latin or other fancy nomenclature into the dialect. Where before a plumber might “run a pipe” to a new sink, the future plumbing theorist will “revitalize an arid space in the housing envelope by carving a wormhole through ordinary space time for water propagation.”

Then some plumbing theorist will discover the same Gödelian logic bombs in the piping domain and everyone will fret about unbuildable homes where the water never reaches the people. Someone will write Gödel, Escher, Bach and Möe the Plumber, and then some Generals will read it and everyone will sit around asking DARPA for research funding to find a way to weaponize these unworkable plumbing schemes. Eventually some Navy Seal will slip into Kim Jong Ill’s mansion and ruin the plumbing by adding a new pipe– I’m sorry– carve a wormhole in the piping space. The crowd of plumbing theorist PhDs back at Plumbing ARPA will cheer and the 4 star general in charge (SINK HYDRO), will go up to the Joint chiefs and say that the $750m spent on Hydro Command was well worth it.

Boy, I can’t wait for the valorization to begin.

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Student debt clock

Mark Kantrowitz, Financial Aid guru, set up a student debt counter that tries to estimate the amount of student debt that’s out there. It’s pretty cute and a good first step, even though it’s wildly inaccurate. The website admits that it’s just for entertainment because the numbers vary at the beginning of terms, but I think the inaccuracies go deeper.

As I’ve mentioned before, we’re not even beginning to count the shadow or hidden student debt:

  • Students often pile on extra credit card debt during their time in school.
  • Parents often pile on credit card debt.
  • Parents take out PLUS loans which pay for school but aren’t seen as student debt because they’re given to parents.
  • Parents often take out loans on their home equity.
  • Parents often take out loans on their 401k. (22% of Fidelity customers have a loan on their 401k.)
  • Parents often defer maintenance on homes and delay purchasing cars. If the next owner of the house needs to put on a new roof, the price of the house is going to go down too. So the deferred maintenance can be like a loan.

When I say parents, I should say grandparents, uncles, aunts and siblings too. This clock doesn’t even begin to go into the amount of debt we’re accumulating to send kids to college.

And need I point out that the debt is owed by everyone because many of the loans are guaranteed by Uncle Sugar. Everyone thinks they’re getting a good deal and squeezing every nickel out of the system, but come April 15th, every one of us gets to pay off the debts in default. Whoo hoo!

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A bit of not-so-horrible news

There’s so much bad news these days that I thought it was worth highlighting this story from Iza Wojciechowska over at InsideHigherEd. While tuition is skyrocketing at many state colleges, some states are keeping the thumbscrews tight on the schools. Let’s praise these politicians because they’ve got to resist tothe blather from the entitled blowhards at the state college who keep prattling on about how the schools will suffer a terrible loss if they can’t keep boosting tuition to the sky.

Let’s face reality. Most of the adjuncts are going to be gone in a year or two because they eventually figure out that the university will never give them a real job. The tenured faculty, on the other hand, won’t be going anywhere unless they’ve got a ton of grants and even then only a few Deans wants to take a gamble on someone who’s so eager to leave their old school. Bidding wars rarely work out in the long run.

In fact, forcing the state college profs to suck down a 20% pay cut will probably have little real effect on quality at all. Oh sure, a few success big names might bolt but they were probably primadonnas who never taught courses to begin with.

I’ve watched Mark Yudof blather on about how Berkeley’s English department is number one in the country and then point a gun at it. If the taxpayers don’t cough up more cash, the English department dies. Hah. I say call his bluff. Most of them probably don’t go anywhere near the undergraduates if they can help it and really who cares if the poor Berkeley kids are forced to live with, say, an English department that’s ranked 40th or 50th? There will be very little noticeable difference in their life after college. It’s not like Starbucks pays more to barristas from top ranked English departments.

(After briefly re-reading this, I’m forced to include some CYA language about excellence. I do enjoy the contributions of the people who are at the top of their fields. They are nice to have around. But I think it’s a mistake for the schools to get in bidding wars over these guys. The 10th ranked prof is usually just as useful to the students as the first. And the Univ. of Cali has been terribly addicted to overspending on big talent. As Bob Samuels discovered, 3843 people in the Cali state system make more than $200k/year. I’m sorry. That’s $200k per 30 week so-called year.)

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Uh, oh. Univ of Cali’s retirement plan is $20b short.

That’s $20b with a b as in billion. Mark Yudof, the genius who inherited this trainwreck of entitlement, is quoted by the LA Times’s Larry Gordon as saying, “If we do nothing, in four years, the University will be spending more on retirement programs each year than we do on classroom instruction.”

Yet I’m sure that the universities will continue to churn out the bogus stats claiming that today’s undergraduates are only paying 1/nth of the cost of running the university. They neglect to mention that the cost of putting a smiling face in front of the classroom is such a tiny part of the cost of running the university. If 50% is going for retirement costs and 50% is going to pay for research fun, is it any shock that the fresh face in front of the classroom is some adjunct getting close to nothing?

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Listening to Wall Street discuss the battle over for-profit schooling

Ah, Wall Street. They say that hope springs eternal and it seems that there are still some on Wall Street who are hopeful that for-profit schools will pull out of the nose dive and generate great returns. Steve Eisman scared everyone with talk of the collapse, but then we found out that he was just betting against the stocks.

This story from Greg Zuckerman and Jenny Strassman at the WSJ shows just how Wall Street speaks about the for-profit education center. They want to know whether the abuses can be curtailed and if so, will the money will keep rolling in. It sounds like some hedge fund weenies went down to Washington and got some assurances that the cash will keep flowing. Money works in miraculous ways down there.

I’m guessing that the for-profit sector should be able to jam up the process in Washington because at the end of the day, the for-profit and the so-called not-for-profit have the same problem: they’ve got an overpriced product and people are balking at mortgaging their future to pay for it. We can talk for hours about repayment rates but the differences aren’t significant. One gets 50% of the kids to repay their loans and the other gets 35%. Big deal.

The not-for-profit idealists probably thought that they could toss the for-profits under the bus and preserve the funding lines for themselves but I’m guessing that they make the same fundamental mistake as the other dreamy believers in education: they see themselves as wonderful and all others as bad. And so they’re blind to the fact that most of the so-called not-for-profits are actually more expensive than the for-profits and many offer returns that are dramatically worse. The kids getting degrees from Harvard in Comp Lit may have wonderful repayment rates, but that’s just because the parents are paying for it all. The degree still condemns them to downward mobility unless they find a real career.

The Wall Street folks are probably smart to focus on Washington and the decision over funding because the education sector is effectively semi-nationalized now, but they’re foolish if they don’t concentrate on the larger tectonic shifts in people’s core beliefs. When people start abandoning the belief in the power of the college degree, the stocks will really collapse.

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Zac Bissonnette says the smartest kids go to community college

Mr. Bissonnette does a great job of packaging the smaller-cheaper-better message that I try to yap about on this blog. His latest article for the Huffington Post says that the smartest kids aren’t going to Harvard or Yale, they’re going to community college for next to nothing. If only I had some money to hire someone, I would test his theory.

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Making sense of the new repayment rates

This article from Kathleen Pender at the SFGate.com almost sent my heart reeling. For some time I’ve been trying to be relatively optimistic about the depth and breadth of the student loan problem. I’ve always assumed that this is a problem for the bottom part of society, the kids who would be better off in trade school but were conned into going for a sheepskin by this relentless belief that a college degree is the only path to wholeness.

As Pender is from the Bay Area, she tunes right into the rates for Cal Berkeley. This school educates the very best, right? People are constantly suing claiming that the Berkeley admissions department is discriminating against their kid with 2400 on the SAT. Ah, but how many of these perfect roses are paying their student loans? Only 73%! This is said to be good because the average public university has a rate of– get this– about 50%.

This statistic isn’t perfect because it lumps together the non-paying kids with the kids who’ve got a legit deferment like the one granted to those who go on to grad school. Some have a semi-legit excuse because they’ve decided to double down and go for a PhD in Advanced BioTheater Theory. So while it doesn’t measure pure deadbeatedness, it does calculate the load on the taxpayer who covers the interest and eventually the principal for those who aren’t paying.

I’m hoping someone will generate some numbers that explains how the semi-legit deferments change these values. While I realize that many of the Bezerkeley kids are so love struck with the college industrial complex that they’re off getting PhDs, these values should average out over time. The graduates from 2010 may not be paying yet, but the graduates from 1995 should have a PhD by now and ready to start paying off some bill. Right?

73% is a staggering number because it means 27% aren’t able to pay off their debt. Berkeley is relatively cheap and so its loans are relatively small. It’s a great school so people should be employed and making enough to repay things. If 27% can’t sustain the debt, it makes me wonder even more about the foundations of this enterprise.

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Measuring university performance is so possible

One of the most brilliant inventions of the college industrial complex is the “heads we all win, tails you lose” attitude. If you’re a success, the school takes credit and brags. If you fail, well, it’s your fault and you still owe 100% of the loans, btw. Bill Gates blew out of Harvard pretty quickly but the school still manages to celebrate its brief influence on him.

Now that the US government pressures the so-called for-profit schools for more accountability and better statistics, someone besides me is going to start asking why can’t the so-called not-for-profit schools can’t generate the same statistics. The Center for College Affordability has been asking for better metrics and even creating their own listings. Daniel Bennett, for instance, calculated the maximum debt for a law school student using the new formula. ($44k!) Why don’t we ask about placement rates and employment?

But that’s not how it was done. I was just about to say, “Good luck with that plan” when I remembered a friend describing his decision to get a masters degree so he could get a teaching job. Wasn’t that a gamble, I said? Technically, yes, he replied, but the school offered good statistics. He got into one that offered close to 100% placement. He went and they found him a job just like they promised.

These programs show that universities are quite capable of both calculating statistics and running their programs in responsible ways. (Here’s one. This lets you search a bit.) His program was proud of placing 90-some percent over the last ten years. Greed might encourage them to increase the size of their school, but they aren’t likely to do that unless they know that they can get the students who will eventually get jobs. They don’t want their placement rate to drop because that will hurt their long term sustainability.  (He went 10 years ago, btw, and I wouldn’t be surprised if their rate has dropped because of the economy.)

The teaching masters aren’t the only programs. The Columbia med school post baccalaureate program promises placement rates of 90%.  They know that parents are going to say, “You want me to spend another %$@$%^ $50k?!?!?”

In the near term, the college industrial complex will continue to balk at the regulations being pushed on the for-profit sector. They’ll say they can’t measure placement. They’ll point out that people get degrees in philosophy for intellectual sport. They’ll say it’s all unfair and that they’ve never offered guarantees. They’ll be right, of course, because they’ve stacked the deck in their favor over all of these years. We’ve all been conditioned to expect that it’s all the students’ fault. But it doesn’t have to be that way. The college industrial complex is capable of calculating statistics that serve their students’ interests not just their own. The teacher prep programs prove it.

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Let’s ask for more ratings, not fewer!

While I think that rankings like the ones from US News are silly and don’t help the student very much, I think that most kids understand many of the limitations. The Deans and administrators, though, hate them except when they give their school a high rating.

Christopher Matgouranis over at the College Affordability Club wrote a nice defense of the need for more quantitative rankings and won me over. He pointed out that schools insist that kids take SAT tests and submit grade averages. Why shouldn’t the kids ask for good, reliable numbers from the schools? Default rates and average debt are useful and I’m glad the numbers are being added to the Forbes/CCAP rankings. I just hope they take into account the shadow debt that isn’t counted by these stats.

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What’s the replacement rate for our population of lawyers?

The blog FlusterClucked figured that  1/40th of our population of lawyers will retire this year and so we should only produce the same amount to replace them. There are some that suggest we need even fewer replacements because so many lawyers are either underemployed or unemployed.

How many lawyers is that? About 19,000. And how many do we produce 45,000, give or take a few. That means closing 75% of the law school. Harsh. The numbers are always staggering when you look at them. We’re not overproducing by 5 or 10%, we’re massively overproducing.

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One in four lap dancers has a degree

The BBC reports on just how well the degrees in England prepare the women to make a living wage. The clip shows lap-dance club owner Peter Stringfellow and university researcher Dr Belinda Brooks-Gordon of the University of Leeds. What’s the difference between the dancers with degrees and the dancers without? One group is filled with sex-positive feminists subverting the typical male gaze to invert the traditional gender-based power-dynamic, a wry and ironic application of Hegelian master/slave theory. The others are just skanks.

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Are not-for-profits just as avaricious as the so-called “for-profits”? Yup!

Daniel Bennett has a good posting over at the Center for College Affordability detailing some of the shenanigans at Chicago State University. As the battle of funds gets tighter,  the tenured geniuses over in not-for-profit land seeking to maintain their light teaching loads and travel budgets decided that they would need to push the “for profit” universities out of the lifeboat.

Bennett’s posting narrows in on the long piece, “College Dropout Factories” by Ben Miller and Phuong Ly.  While the article is really about how the poor and unsuspecting are bamboozled into worthless courses at places like Chicago State University, Bennett focuses on the riches given to the ruling class. We hear of one administrator who “brought five relatives and a university administrator with her on a nine-day Caribbean cruise for a ‘leadership conference.’”Since it’s all laundered through the university it’s technically not profit, but it should seem like profit to anyone with a brain.

The posting is clearly trying to score some political points because it singles out Senator Durbin’s connection to the featherbedding because he has been a critic of the for-profit schools. I think that Mr. Durbin is probably stuck in the same reality distortion field as the rest of the not-for-profit world. Profit sounds bad to the tenured folks who don’t think of their $200k+ salaries as “profit”. Nope. That’s an investment in excellence and, OMG, if the governor cuts one little bit of their princely salaries the state will slide into the red hot magma in the core of the planet.

This sounds like small potatoes to me. I’ve seen enough research conferences on Hawai’i and listened to enough researchers who schedule meetings at ski resorts in the winter and beaches in the summer. These are just the average tenured schmoes. The real leadership is constantly building itself 20,000 square foot mansions and paying itself seven figure salaries. The real goal is to ask why the university folks are able to enjoy so many wonderful trips and huge salaries while wearing the mantle of good-guy, not-for-profit.

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The size of shadow debt is huge.

 For grins I decided to chain together some stats after hearing that 22% of Fidelity’s 401k customers have taken out loans to pay for medical bills and college. The size of these loans are surprisingly big:

Here’s my math:

Assuming Fidelity customers are representative and all customers are equal, that’s $3700 times 22% times 14%=$114 billion in loans against 401k plans. If we conservatively guess that only 50% are using the money for college tuition, that suggests that $62 billion was borrowed from retirement funds to pay for Johnny’s tuition.

The 401k market, though, is just part of the entire retirement system because many people don’t have 401k plans. The Calpers pension plan covers state workers in California and has about $250 billion alone in assets. These are just the government workers because there’s a separate pension fund for the teachers  and that’s about half the size.

If we assume that the 401k stash is about 10% of the total pension funds and everyone has borrowed cash at more or less the same rate as Fidelity customers, we can guess that parents have borrowed $620 billion to fund college tuition– something that’s pretty close to the official total of student debt. This suggests that the shadow debt is a real factor.

This is a house of cards built on easy assumptions. I don’t expect that it’s accurate but I do believe it’s in the ballpark.  Many so-called financial aid plans routinely suggest that the parent contribution should be about double or triple the size of the loans taken out by the kid. The University of Pennsylvania, that super-generous place offering “NO LOANS”, the kids borrow nothing but the parents take out huge PLUS loans.

This makes the problem even larger for society. Once the kids manage to pay off their huge debts, their parents will start to think about retiring. Let’s hope the parents are able to repay their debt to their retirement plan because if they don’t, they’ll be borrowing more from Junior.

Sheesh. These numbers are scary.

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Time for more pity of the Deans

It’s not a good time to be a Dean of a Law School. First you’ve got the hunger strikers asking for accurate statistics about their graduates. Then you’ve got the mainstream press listening to the out-of-work lawyers frantically blogging away about their poor fortunes.

After Leslie Kwoh wrote a basic introductory piece in the Newark Star-Ledger,  John Farmer the dean of Rutgers Law School in Newark decided that silence was not the best policy. His piece includes such gems as

  • “But the real value of legal education is not, and never has been, primarily economic. It’s not about money; it’s about freedom.”
  •  ”Legal education gives students what 99.9 percent of humanity yearns for but is denied: control over one’s own life. “
  • “it’s a license to express that freedom in service to other people. “

Ah, I thought all of us were entitle to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, but it seems like only those who pay the full freight at a law school can have freedom.

Alas, I don’t think Mr. Farmer has the same feeling of freedom. To him, it’s a chance to raise prices indiscriminately, the ability to hire administrators on a whim and pass the costs onto the students, the ease of making “no guarantees” that your product is worth anything or will function as described, etc. etc.

It’s hard to feel freedom when you’re under $100,000 or $200,000 of debt. If we buy Janice Joplin’s theory that freedom is just another word for nothing left to lose, we run into a problem with dealing with numbers. The law school graduates don’t have nothing, they have less than nothing. Just like Alicia Torres, the woman who needed to raise $90,000 to pay off her student loans and take a vow of poverty by joining a convent, the average lawyer doesn’t have the freedom of having nothing. The law school debt is a form of indenture.

I feel sorry for Mr. Farmer who’s going to keep trying to come up with more justifications to keep fools walking in his door. But really. Did he really say that the benefits aren’t economic? Yeesh.

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